Very grateful to my good friend, Dr. Carol Bowman for this interview with me and lively discussion on “Focus on What You CAN Do: Meaningful Engagement in Activities while Managing Chronic Pain,” focusing on the Personal Development circle of the Circle of Health as part of the VA Whole Health initiative from the VA Office of Patient Centered Care & Cultural Transformation. (Views are our own, although you can find it on the VA website).

Carol and I have taught courses together as National Education Champions for the Office of Patient Centered Care & Cultural Transformation. You can learn more about Whole Health through the VA Whole Health Home page. This interview & discussion is part of Carol’s Whole health for Chronic Pain podcast series and is available on the VA website, or at wherever you find podcasts.

We talk about finding a place for pain in your life when you are working with chronic pain and different ways of transforming pain into compassion and personal growth.